Can You Still Make Money as an Amazon DSP in 2025? | Mark Chiusano Tells All

In this episode of 'Last2First,' Jason interviews Mark Chiusano, often called the 'Godfather' of the logistics industry. Mark, the founder of Avant Business Services, Cornucopia Logistics, and Net Zero Logistics, shares his intriguing journey from the early days of his family business to becoming the original Amazon DSP and pioneering efforts in green logistics. Learn about his evolution with Amazon, the challenges of maintaining quality and profitability, and innovative solutions like the "Walker Program" and mobile cross-docks. Discover Mark's personal and professional lessons, including overcoming market fluctuations and navigating intricate business partnerships. Whether you're in the logistics industry or just fascinated by entrepreneurial resilience, this episode is packed with insights and inspiration. 03:20 Introduction and Guest Welcome 04:32 History of Avant Business Services 07:43 Challenges and Changes in the Messenger Business 12:44 Cornucopia Logistics and Amazon Partnership 15:14 Innovations and Environmental Focus 35:11 Insurance and Lithium-Ion Battery Safety 35:29 Innovative Charging Solutions 36:29 E-Bike Battery Swap Systems 37:18 Panel Discussion on ROI and Climate Change 37:55 Lobbying for Tax Incentives 43:38 Challenges with Congestion Pricing in NYC 51:46 Impact of De Minimis Law Changes 55:43 Future of Final Mile Logistics 01:03:55 Personal Challenges and Successes 01:07:52 Closing Remarks and Future Plans